Comments on: Spontaneous Order in Action

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By: Ban the Traffic Light? « ThinkMarkets

Ban the Traffic Light? « ThinkMarkets — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:48:24 +0000

[...] Joseph Fetz’s blog alerted me to an interesting video comparing the same intersection in New Zealand on a day when its traffic light was out versus the next day with the light back in operation. The video certainly illustrates the fact that people’s ability to achieve spontaneous order can be greater than one might suspect at first: many people would guess that the day without the light would be chaotic by comparison to the one with it, but traffic actually seems to flow better with the light off. [...]

By: Joseph A. Fetz

Joseph A. Fetz — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 06:08:34 +0000

Yes, Jordan. I believe that is the one.

By: Jordan

Jordan — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:27:37 +0000

This one?

By: sharon

sharon — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:43:40 +0000

pretty darn amazing!!!

By: Joseph A. Fetz

Joseph A. Fetz — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:21:51 +0000

…as well as when it (regulation and restriction) should be undertaken.

By: Joseph A. Fetz

Joseph A. Fetz — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:28:10 +0000

That is almost exactly how I read that statement, as well.

By: Joseph A. Fetz

Joseph A. Fetz — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:26:47 +0000

Exactly! There will be rules in either case, thus regulation and restrictions, regardless of whether it is public or private. People often get lost in their ideological fury that they forget that we aren’t necessarily talking about the absence or presence of regulation and restriction, but rather how it should be undertaken.

However, I do remember a similar case in Europe about a year or so ago, where a city removed both lights and signs, and supposedly had a positive outcome. I cannot remember the particulars, but I remember thinking that it was interesting. While it certainly reminded me of Hayek, as well as certain aspects of chaos theory, something that you wrote for ‘ThinkMarkets’ also comes to mind. I cannot remember exactly what it was.

By: gcallah

gcallah — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:18:47 +0000

And note it really has nothing to do with state versus non-state solutions: private roads often have stop signs and speed bumps and parking lots have one-way lanes and stop signs and so on.